Now we're getting into the second generation of my music. I didn't feel wholey a part of the bands I was in in San Diego as I did with my earlier bands. Of these bands though, I felt like I contributed to Physics the most.

Pretty soon after Rafter and I got to San Diego, Jason Soares approached him about playing drums in Physics. The band had been around for years and had gone through many drummers after their first drummer and co-founder, Denver Lucas, died in 1994. Denver was also the vision behind way-ahead-of-their-time math-quirk band Powerdresser. There's never been another band like Powerdresser, and I doubt there every will be. He was a fucking genius.

Anyway, Rafter referred Jason to me; why, I'm not too sure. But I was happy to take a stab at it, even though I'd never played drums in a band before and I wasn't too confident in my abilities. It ended up working quite nicely though, and I was in Physics for about two years.

Physics provided me an opportunity to finally play shows again, as well as make my first trip around the states. We also did a couple west coast tours.

Sadly, Physics broke up for no real reason other than interpersonal conflict, and never made a recording that accurately represented the live experience. There were six people in Physics and people were always butting heads, I think the only reason it'd survived so long was that they were never quite so serious until I joined and we had a complete lineup. Once we started doing things like touring, the tension was too much to deal with.

We did try to record an album. We were actually in a constant state of trying to record an album for the last seven or eight months of our existence. Never worked out. But we released two live ep's, one called 2.7.98 which is probably still available, at least for special order, and one called 11.22.99 which is a limited edition from Neurot Recordings.